Refuge in the Catholic Church
The Mike Huckabee interview, and the truth about America’s deeply unhealthy relationship with Israel
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Dr. E. Michael Jones returns to Our Interesting Times to discuss Carrie Prejean Boller's ouster from Presidential Commission on Religious Liberty, the myth of Catholic Zionism, the Epstein file dump and what the information therein means for the American Empire.
Dr. Jones is the editor of Culture Wars magazine and author of many books including his most recently published Walking with a Bible and a Gun: The Rise, Fall & Return of American Identity.
The 6th of September 2025 could’ve been a great day for England. On that first Saturday in September, two marches took place in London. To delve deeper into the mystery of this great might-have-been I engaged the help of the Google AI assistant. Apparently, it’s part of the Gemini AI family. Alright, Gemini, get to work: Link the Palestine rally on 6th September 2025 in London with the March for Life:
National March for Palestine and the UK March for Life took place in central London on the same day, Saturday, September 6, 2025. There is no link between the two events in terms of purpose or organisation; they are separate demonstrations with entirely different, and in fact opposing, causes and objectives.
Whoa! Sorry for asking, Gemini! OK then, if you say so. Having been provided with details of purpose, times and locations, I was told in no uncertain terms:
The only connection between the two main events was their coincident timing and general location in central London on September 6, 2025. They were ideologically opposed demonstrations that drew large crowds for unrelated reasons. (AI responses may include mistakes).
Though I attended neither march, I know that one ended on Whitehall, that magnificent neoclassical boulevard running south from Trafalgar Square, and which is home to all the great ministries of the British State, as well as the Horse Guards and the Cenotaph, and off which runs Downing Street itself. Whitehall, the button on the belly of the beast. Meanwhile the March for Life came to its climax in its usual location, at the south end of Whitehall, namely on Parliament Square. So, both in time and in space my much-dreamed-of merger was tantalisingly close. Why the ideological bar to intercourse? ‘Why,’ I ask, ‘do you say that they are ideologically opposed?’:
While they shared the same date and central London location, they are considered ideologically opposed because they represent fundamentally different political and social movements with distinct core values. (more...)
Two Genocides, Two Marches And a Prayer for England
🔥 He got fired from a Catholic college for opposing abortion. That was just the beginning.
Dr. E. Michael Jones has been called every name in the book. The ADL has him on their radar. Google buries his website. But after 40 years of writing, researching, and speaking out, he says his reach has never been greater.
"If you're not suffering, you're not dealing with the truth. If you haven't been banned, if you haven't been called names, you're not in the battle."
In this no holds barred conversation, Dr. Jones breaks down everything from the origins of his controversial work to why he believes the current moment is a turning point for Catholics and for the West.
What you'll learn in this episode:
• Why getting fired in 1980 was the best thing that ever happened to him
• His take on the term "anti-Semitism" and why he refuses to accept it as defined today
• The connection between Puritanism, Freemasonry, and what he calls the "hidden grammar" of America
• Why he wrote an 1800 page book that he says poses the biggest threat to the current order
• How the grace of the sacraments has sustained him through decades of opposition
• His challenge to Catholic bishops on a recent controversial document
• Why he believes Logos is the universal language that can unite people across cultures
"God had a plan and I had the courage to step out about what I believed. And if you do that, God will take care of you."
He is not backing down. He is not slowing down. And after this conversation, you will understand why.
📚 Find his books at fidelitypress.org
The Global War on Humanity (GWOH) escalated this week with a drone murder plot against Putin, which would have triggered nuclear war had it succeeded, and Trump's gangster-style attack on Venezuela. E. Michael Jones and I break it down.
Michael Matt's first Underground of the New Year tackles the U.S. invasion of Venezuela and the over 600 military strikes the Trump Administration ordered against seven countries in 2025 alone. Tell me, is this what you voted for?
Meanwhile, why did the Trump Administration tell Josh Hawley to pound sand?
Good news from the USCCB. Unbelievably, they got it right this time! This is huge!
Plus, the Holy Year is over, so moving forward into the New Year, Pope Leo owns everything that happens. And with the January consistory looming, Vatican watchers are looking to see if Leo is going to be Francis 2.0 when it comes to the Latin Mass. Michael says it might be a bit more subtle than that and we may be looking at the resurrection of Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger's "reform of the reform." What is that? Watch and see!
Finally, for the first time in U.S. history, Catholics outnumber Protestants. Way to go, Gen Z!
The recently-released tranche of additional documents tied to Jeffrey Epstein include remarks by a woman identifying as one of the victims of the late disgraced financier and convicted sex trafficker, in which she refers to Donald Trump as a witness to the killing and disposal of the body of her infant.
The US Department of Justice released the documents numbering tens of thousands, which include FBI tips and complaints implicating Trump, on Wednesday.
Reports emerging on Friday across various outlets, including the UK edition of American online newspaper The International Business Times, pointed to inclusion in the documents of an FBI intake form dated March 3, 2020 recording a complaint from the unnamed woman.
The complainant said she had been trafficked at age 13 in the early 1980s and described an incident in 1984 involving the killing of her newborn child aboard a yacht in Mona Lake, Michigan.
According to the document, the woman said her uncle had carried out the killing and disposed of the body in the water.
The filing lists Trump as a witness to the incident. (more...)
‘Trump witnessed killing, disposal of Epstein victim’s infant,’ released files show
‘Trump authorized Epstein’s death’; ‘president’s love for young girls’: Allegations infest new Epstein files https://t.co/C3HHF0sFcv
— Press TV 🔻 (@PressTV) December 24, 2025
Michael asks a couple of questions about the Candace Owens phenomenon:
Plus, Michael compares a new book on the Cristero Catholic counterrevolution in Mexico to “For Altar and Throne: The Rising in the Vendee” by Michael Davies. It’s the same story – the Freemasonic bad guys vs the same Traditional Catholic good guys – just on a different continent. But the Christophobia is the same. And here we go again in 2025—the Revolution is firing up the Christophobic mob.
Dr. E. Michael Jones returns to Our Interesting Times to discuss the civil war within MAGA and why Tucker Carlson refuses to distinguish all Jews from the Jews.
Dr. Jones is the editor of Culture Wars magazine and author of many books including his just published Walking with a Bible and a Gun: The Rise, Fall & Return of American Identity.
One of the fundamental axioms of Thomistic philosophy is “agere sequitur esse,” which means that action follows being. This means that “what a thing does must necessarily reflect what it is in some way.” My corollary to this axiom is that there can be no action without consciousness. This is true of all human action, but it has special relevance to political action.
In the months following the Hamas uprising in Gaza, the world has experienced a massive change in consciousness. The Israeli genocide in reaction to that uprising has brought about a global consensus that Jews, as St. Paul said in I Thess 2, are “enemies of the entire human race.”
Dr. E. Michael Jones is a prolific Catholic writer, lecturer, journalist, and Editor of Culture Wars Magazine who seeks to defend traditional Catholic teachings and values from those seeking to undermine them.