RANDY ENGEL joined S.T. Patrick to discuss the critical Catholic perspective of Opus Dei, an upper level sort of secretive society within the Roman Catholic Church. Ms. Engel then discusses a rare speech made in 1969 by Dr. Richard Day. The speech has since been titled "The New Order of Barbarians" and lays out the coming "new world system." Many now call it the New World Order. Special attention in this interview is paid to two lesser-known areas of population control - sports and the arts. Engel also describes population control through the changes in American religion, sex education, and changes in the Catholic church. (with an emphasis on the scandals of the early 2000's).